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UncleTimmy

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Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 3:44 pm

Post Tue May 17, 2005 4:21 pm

rspyc wrote:
UncleTimmy wrote:I'm not sure whether that's a spoiler. OTOH, I'm not sure whether saying it's the one about gur snpr would be either :wink:

Oops, I think I went a step too far. To all moderators: feel free to delete any spoilers if I'm making things too obvious.


The moderators do feel free -- I'm one of 'em :wink:. Problem is, I really don't know whether it's a spoiler! I don't think it would have helped me, so I let it be.
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japyh

Posts: 30

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 9:42 am

Post Tue May 17, 2005 5:51 pm

Some of the other levels have been complex. This one is simple. Much better!
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jtauber

Posts: 47

Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 10:20 pm

Post Tue May 17, 2005 11:01 pm

That was a wonderful level. Definitely one of my favourites!

I don't think rspyc's comment was a spoiler.

This might be, though :wink:
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rspyc

Posts: 80

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:15 am

Location: Flanders, Belgium

Post Wed May 18, 2005 1:23 am

I managed to apologize too, now.
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stedi

Posts: 15

Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 3:56 am

Location: Germany

Post Wed May 18, 2005 2:49 am

clueless

I'm stuck, again. Doesn't help that this is supposed to be easy and obvious:( ARGHHH...

Later that day: it helps to read. see you later on level 24...
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mjpieters

Site Admin

Posts: 172

Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 8:56 am

Location: Norway

Post Wed May 18, 2005 5:17 am

That was FUN!

For those stuck: Tim is being too modest; Fred may have written the Python code, but Tim provided the inspiration. Oh, and take the hints literally!
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rmunn

Posts: 5

Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 8:36 pm

Post Sat May 21, 2005 9:49 am

That was beautiful. I had a flash of enlightenment and tried a three-letter word starting with "z", and was bitterly disappointed when it returned a 404. Then I thought, "wait a minute... that last clue..." and was greatly relieved to find that I'd been correct the first time, and that this puzzle really was just as beautiful as I thought. Thanks a lot to whoever designed it!
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onai

Posts: 11

Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 1:52 pm

Post Tue May 24, 2005 11:49 am

Argh! I am stuck! Not the first time, but there I have nothing to chew. No mysterious binary file making me read about image formats or compression algorithms, no website to dig in, no pattern matching and string manipulation to experiment ... Just starring at the module index with increasing perplexity.

If this is a joke about a module referenced in the standard documentation, I can try again, but if it is really "undocumented", I am afraid that I have reached my incompetence level ...
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mjpieters

Site Admin

Posts: 172

Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 8:56 am

Location: Norway

Post Tue May 24, 2005 11:59 am

onai wrote:Just starring at the module index with increasing perplexity.


You better stare at the contents of /usr/lib/python2.4 (or whereever your python stores it's library).. It is an undocumented module after all. Also, take this literally! ;)
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onai

Posts: 11

Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 1:52 pm

Post Wed May 25, 2005 12:27 pm

Well, I tried this, and lacking inspiration, I made a brute force attempt (I gathered 716 module names - documented or not - and tried them all). I detected only one valid url, leading to a dead end. And trying an encrypted version only made me suspected of smoking things ... Perhaps for some reason (incorrect installation ?) I have indeed never seen the magic word on my screen, and this idea makes me nervous ....
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rspyc

Posts: 80

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:15 am

Location: Flanders, Belgium

Post Wed May 25, 2005 12:36 pm

onai wrote:Well, I tried this, and lacking inspiration, I made a brute force attempt (I gathered 716 module names - documented or not - and tried them all). I detected only one valid url, leading to a dead end.

The url is not the name of the module; you should do something with the module first.
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mjpieters

Site Admin

Posts: 172

Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 8:56 am

Location: Norway

Post Wed May 25, 2005 1:29 pm

Brute forcing things will not work at all here. There is one module that isn't
documented, not even in the 'undocumented' section of the python docs. I'll
give you a few hints though:
  • the hints on the level page have pretty much named the module for you.
  • UncleTimmy here should have known about the module in the first place,
    because he could be called the father of the module in question
  • The module isn't much use for solving programming problems programmatically,
    it is only helpful with philosophy
  • Once you find the module, study it's source
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japyh

Posts: 30

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 9:42 am

Post Wed May 25, 2005 1:33 pm

mjpieters wrote:
  • UncleTimmy here should have known about the module in the first place,
    because he could be called the father of the module in question


UncleTimmy is Tim P_____? Cool.

j.
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onai

Posts: 11

Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 1:52 pm

Post Wed May 25, 2005 11:49 pm

Thanks for the hints! I I couldn't imagine that it was that simple! :oops:
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themule

Posts: 4

Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 1:28 pm

Location: Italy

Post Sat May 28, 2005 5:22 pm

Am I mistaken or this one "requires" python 2.4? I wasn't able to solve it with my python 2.3 installation on Fedora Core 3. Luckily enough I wanted to try 2.4 for a previous level, so I had it at hand this time. Unless I've found a short cut, totally unrelated, by pure chance. Someone please confirm the dependency on 2.4.
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