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mjpieters

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Post Sun May 29, 2005 4:23 pm

Level 30

Hint: The csv module is not needed
Hint: Find the factors
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UncleTimmy

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Post Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:17 pm

Re: Level 30

mjpieters wrote:Hint: The csv module is not needed


Indeed, it's more trouble than it's worth here.

Hint: Find the factors


That's a pretty strong hint :wink:.

Two things go into n. I think there are "obvious" (meaning they clearly fit) choices for both, but the n that results gives me a 404. So do 50 variations based on less compelling (to me) ideas about what n's inputs might be. After I started appending and prepending n to various words, I was clearly reduced to random thrashing.

Is n close to the end? Do n's inputs have anything at all to do with anything else in this level :wink:?
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mjpieters

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:12 am

Re: Level 30

UncleTimmy wrote:Two things go into n.


n? Who is talking about any n? I was more talking about len; that does have an n in there, so then 'yes, the n comes at the end'. :)
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birkenfeld

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:19 am

I am stuck with "n", too. Perhaps it isn't the key for the next level (rsp. the end till now) yet, but for another step...
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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:39 am

Martijn checks his notes Oh you mean that n, the one from the formula? Just apply the formula and see if the results of that mean anyting to you.
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mjpieters

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:44 am

Re: Level 30

UncleTimmy wrote:Two things go into n. I think there are "obvious" (meaning they clearly fit) choices for both, but the n that results gives me a 404.


Hmmm. Now that I recall what you mean with 'n' (sorry about that, wrong stage of the puzzle), I can give you a more sane answer: If you found what goes into 'n', you are close to the end. I got two sentences and a load of garbage out of n.
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birkenfeld

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:48 am

Yay! On to level... :x guess I'll have to wait...
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UncleTimmy

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:52 am

Re: Level 30

I needed a private nudge from Martijn to knock me loose from fixed ideas. They were elegant ideas, but if they don't work they're stupid by definition :wink:
    - Don't read "you are on 30" as a hint about the "I" flavor of "you". You has nothing to do with i.
    - n has nothing to do with the hidden "nnn. what could this mean?" hint in level 19. Anyone ever figure out what that was about?
    - x requires some poke-and-hope
    - As given, the Python can't work. I'm probably the only one who would notice that, though :wink:
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simonhang

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Post Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:19 am

stuck at very beginning.
Is the csv file has 8 columns or only 1 column? Are those dot in float numbers important?
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UncleTimmy

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Post Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:11 pm

simonhang wrote:... Is the csv file has 8 columns or only 1 column?

Look up "csv" with a search engine.
Are those dot in float numbers important?

While this varies across countries, in standard Python syntax "." is the radix point. So, for example, one and three quarters is 1.75. Whether they're important here is something for you to discover.
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favila

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Post Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:18 pm

A little stuck here

I got factors (I think), I got a curious pattern of primes, I even got irreducible fractions, but what I don't got is the answer.

A hint?
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hemlock

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Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:44 pm

Re: Level 30

UncleTimmy wrote:
    - Don't read "you are on 30" as a hint about the "I" flavor of "you". You has nothing to do with i.
    - n has nothing to do with the hidden "nnn. what could this mean?" hint in level 19. Anyone ever figure out what that was about?
    - x requires some poke-and-hope
    - As given, the Python can't work. I'm probably the only one who would notice that, though :wink:


Due to drawbacks in the English language - I am unclear as to your meaning especially regarding x. Are you saying that "x requires some poke and hope" or that "x requires some poke and hope" is a stupid idea? Because at this point, I'm pretty much down to poke and hope...


[later] Nevermind, x does NOT require poke-and-hope
Last edited by hemlock on Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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new2py

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Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:47 pm

At a complete loss

I guess there's some approach which will be obvious in hindsight, but I'm at a complete loss as to how to proceed this time.

I'm staring at a list of numbers between 0 and 1, and they don't mean a thing to me. Can someone please PM me with a solid clue (or spoiler!) as to how to proceed from here? I really don't want to give up after getting this far!

EDIT: Yep, it was obvious in hindsight - thanks hemlock for helping me to see the solution.
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ajohnson

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Post Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:26 am

Re: Level 30

UncleTimmy wrote:- n has nothing to do with the hidden "nnn. what could this mean?" hint in level 19. Anyone ever figure out what that was about?


I assumed it meant little ndian :P Could be wrong though. I usually am ;)
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Greek0

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Post Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:52 am

I'm completely lost here too. I think I understood the hints given till now, I just don't know how to apply them to that table of values.

Could anyone provide some more hints for this one?
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